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Stove Top Cappuccino Maker - Bialetti Gran Gala
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~john
2007-03-09 04:42:47 UTC
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Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.

http://www.bialetticafe.com/pinfo-12_bialetti-mukka-express.html
Bill Barner
2007-03-09 13:11:06 UTC
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I have one. It does what they claim it will do. My one complaint with it
is that it is sometimes difficult to screw the upper and lower halves of the
unit together tight enough to prevent leakage at the gasket. When you do
get it together tight enough it is sometimes difficult to get it apart.
This problem occurs because it is large and curved.. I think there would be
no problem if the Mukka was faceted like the typical Bialetti. However, I
have only had this problem occasionally; the Mukka works fine most of the
time.
Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
http://www.bialetticafe.com/pinfo-12_bialetti-mukka-express.html
Jack Denver
2007-03-09 13:23:27 UTC
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Search the archives - this has been discussed before. IMHO it's overpriced
for what it is, which is a moka pot with a crude built in milk frothing
device. For $90 you could just about get a low end pump espresso machine -
WLL sells reconditioned Gaggia Carezzas on ebay for $115 that are full blown
espresso machines, not gimmicky toys.

Whatever you buy you'll need a quality grinder if you want to have any hope
of success. Unfortunately, this will cost you more than the espresso
machine.
Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
http://www.bialetticafe.com/pinfo-12_bialetti-mukka-express.html
notbob
2007-03-09 14:33:48 UTC
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Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
Seems pretty damn pricey for an aluminum moka pot. No surprise from
W-S. Get a stainless unit cheaper.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.mokapot.shtml

nb
Jack Denver
2007-03-09 16:46:38 UTC
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This one is not just a moka pot but has some kind of primitive milk frothing
device built in. Still not worth $90.
Post by notbob
Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
Seems pretty damn pricey for an aluminum moka pot. No surprise from
W-S. Get a stainless unit cheaper.
http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.mokapot.shtml
nb
~john
2007-03-09 18:49:25 UTC
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Post by Jack Denver
This one is not just a moka pot but has some kind of primitive milk frothing
device built in. Still not worth $90.
What's the best methods for steaming/frothing milk then if I just a
regular moka pot?

~john
hazzmat
2007-03-10 22:52:51 UTC
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Post by ~john
Post by Jack Denver
This one is not just a moka pot but has some kind of primitive milk frothing
device built in. Still not worth $90.
What's the best methods for steaming/frothing milk then if I just a
regular moka pot?
~john
I don't know if it's the absolute best method, but this is what I think of
as complementing a regular moka pot for cappuccino/latte.

http://www.zaccardis.com/stove-top-cappuccino-steamer.html

It doesn't froth as powerfully as a Silvia, but it works.
there's a better picture of one here:

http://1st-line.com/machines/home_mod/eg/50.htm

the difference between the two, if any, is just the paint on the outside.
Both would be made by Cogen-Progetti.

there is also the kind of frother that relies on a kind of plunger in hot
milk to create the aeration effect, like this model at Fantes:
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I have no idea how well this second kind of frother works.
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Flasherly
2007-03-10 23:30:56 UTC
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On Mar 10, 5:52 pm, hazzmat
Post by hazzmat
there is also the kind of frother that relies on a kind of plunger in hot
milk to create the aeration effect, like this model at Fantes:http://www.fantes.com/images/5461frothers.jpg
I have no idea how well this second kind of frother works.
Appears OK from the people buying it.

http://www.wholelattelove.com/Bonjour/froth_monet.cfm

or, the $15 difference in price for free shiping is essentially a $15
gift WLL is charging.

http://www.amazon.com/BonJour-Caffe-Froth-Monet-Black/dp/B00004R8YK/ref=sr_1_1/102-1512416-3760169?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1173568917&sr=8-1
John S.
2007-03-09 17:20:24 UTC
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Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
http://www.bialetticafe.com/pinfo-12_bialetti-mukka-express.html
This one because it blends everything will require a good cleaning
too. I would be interested in what the final product is like. A
Latte-like beverage maybe?
Flasherly
2007-03-10 02:46:11 UTC
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Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
http://www.bialetticafe.com/pinfo-12_bialetti-mukka-express.html
Yep - I've perpetually soaked dishrags that are falling to pieces,
along with a little tiny "working" cup, an earthen mug cup that fits
under it all, since I broke my miniature 6 oz. pyrex carafe yesterday,
damnit to bloody 'ell. Using the work mug for the time being to fill
the resevoir, prime, steam-blow and preclean grinds, whatever
residuals might be out of shower head and thermalblock boiler. More
again, in between and after extracting a glass, more blowing water for
temperature surfing and finally cleaning. Amazes me, too, all those
things to go through, with a third-cup of water left by way of a mess
on the kitchen counter, for a tiny cup of really good milked coffee.
Needless to say, I shouldn't consider my Bialetti (the 6 oz. common
variety model) suitable as a replacement.
Zibgg
2007-03-11 09:41:37 UTC
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see this link...
http://tinyurl.com/yu7hgh
Jack Denver
2007-03-11 14:54:18 UTC
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I think they need to work some more on the machine translation software -
the one that they are having, he is a riot of the laughter!
Post by Zibgg
see this link...
http://tinyurl.com/yu7hgh
Zibgg
2007-03-11 18:01:58 UTC
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Post by Jack Denver
I think they need to work some more on the machine translation software -
the one that they are having, he is a riot of the laughter!
It's google :-)

Mukka Express is absolutely not a great product... It's difficult to clean,
big and makes watered cappuccino with big bubles... nothing to compare with
a traditional espresso machine.
Flasherly
2007-03-11 19:57:06 UTC
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see this link...http://tinyurl.com/yu7hgh
Yea, I know. I'm on the right page and knew it's the milking version.
Not a bad drink from my Bialetti, really, but neither is a mess to
clean up behind an espresso machine such a bother I'd forgo that for
first choice.

c***@hotmail.com
2007-03-11 18:43:49 UTC
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Post by ~john
Anyone tried this? I recently saw it in a Williams-Sonoma and it
looked like it might actually work. I know it's not a real espresso
maker but I'm not the type to ever shell out the money for one and
I've found the chepo units too messy and hard to clean.
http://www.bialetticafe.com/pinfo-12_bialetti-mukka-express.html
www.Travesso.com

We will start selling our poduct this summer. Then you you will have
a true portable stove top espresso machine.
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