Another Coffee Company Dumps Real Coffee

[g***@wxyz.com]

I've been using Gevalia coffee for about 4 or 5 years. A number of
months - maybe even a year - ago, they dumped their decent coffee, and
like almost all other coffee companies, changed to some junk that
doesn't even have a coffee taste.

I don't have a clue as to if there is a coffee brand that still has
that "coffee" taste.

I just love how so many off brands have come up with selling their
garbage for $20 - $40 for a few ounces. They're trying to convince us
that because the price is so high it must be true coffee they're
selling.

[Kurt Weiske]

To: geo
-=> geo wrote to alt.coffee,alt.food.coffee <=-

ge> From Newsgroup: alt.coffee

ge> I've been using Gevalia coffee for about 4 or 5 years. A number of
ge> months - maybe even a year - ago, they dumped their decent coffee, and
ge> like almost all other coffee companies, changed to some junk that
ge> doesn't even have a coffee taste.

Gevalia coffee always had a specific flavor to me - almost a
french/vienna roast thing going on. Ikea makes coffee bricks that
reminded me of how Gevalia used to taste.

ge> I don't have a clue as to if there is a coffee brand that still has
ge> that "coffee" taste.

ge> I just love how so many off brands have come up with selling their
ge> garbage for $20 - $40 for a few ounces. They're trying to convince us
ge> that because the price is so high it must be true coffee they're
ge> selling.

Don't get me started about Mexican beers that are priced the same as
mass-produced American "craft" beers, and a couple of bucks more than
Bud/Miller.


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[g***@wxyz.com]

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 10:28:00 -0800, "Kurt Weiske"

Post by Kurt Weiske
To: geo
-=> geo wrote to alt.coffee,alt.food.coffee <=-
ge> From Newsgroup: alt.coffee
ge> I've been using Gevalia coffee for about 4 or 5 years. A number of
ge> months - maybe even a year - ago, they dumped their decent coffee, and
ge> like almost all other coffee companies, changed to some junk that
ge> doesn't even have a coffee taste.
Gevalia coffee always had a specific flavor to me - almost a
french/vienna roast thing going on. Ikea makes coffee bricks that
reminded me of how Gevalia used to taste.
ge> I don't have a clue as to if there is a coffee brand that still has
ge> that "coffee" taste.
ge> I just love how so many off brands have come up with selling their
ge> garbage for $20 - $40 for a few ounces. They're trying to convince us
ge> that because the price is so high it must be true coffee they're
ge> selling.
Don't get me started about Mexican beers that are priced the same as
mass-produced American "craft" beers, and a couple of bucks more than
Bud/Miller.

I know nothing about about coffee except how it used to taste. There
is a specific "coffee" taste which seems to no longer exist. I'm 88
years-old, so I *do* have a memory of what coffee used to be. I've
been drinking it since the age of five.

What really bugs me are the ridiculous reviews on stuff like Maxwell
house and other oldies who have been little more than weak tasting
junk for over 50 years.

And don't get me started on that Starbucks crap...Arrggghh!

Post by Kurt Weiske
Ikea makes coffee bricks that
reminded me of how Gevalia used to taste.

I'll look 'em up while I search eBay. I don't use Amazon anymore.
Amazon has become little else but one trap after another to set you up
for enrolling into the Prime nonsense. Their so-called reviews are
another problem - which I won't go into.

[tom]

I'm not really sure what taste your referring to exactly. Are you
familiar with the Specialty coffee association of america's coffee
taster's flavor wheel? Perhaps you could use that to describe it.

I'm Don't think your going to get good coffee from a can or 'ball'. I
get my good coffee from Flag & Wire if I am looking for a light roast,
and Coava if I'm looking for dark. Sometimes I go to other shops I
haven't heard of before to switch it up. I used to get Stumptown's
hairbender before they got bought out by a corporation and no longer
were locally owned. So did most business in the area too when that
happened.

I went back to stumptown a month after it happened wondering what all
the hubbub was about and tried their hairbender (house brew) and it was
burnt! Completely different than it was all these years before the
buyout. Now it could have just been a bad batch but I haven't had them
since.

[g***@wxyz.com]

Post by tom
I'm not really sure what taste your referring to exactly. Are you
familiar with the Specialty coffee association of america's coffee
taster's flavor wheel? Perhaps you could use that to describe it.

All this nonsense about having the proper type of cup, spoon,
thermometer, drip machine, water source, etc., etc., is crap.

For the first two to three decades of my 88 years all these "special"
appurtenances weren't necessary. One simply bought a can off the
shelf and made their coffee - and it was *real* coffee.

Some were too bitter, too strong, too-whatever - but they pretty much
all had that COFFEE flavor. None of the so-called coffees today have
the *coffee* flavor from those days. Through the decades I remember
having to change my coffee brand many times because of each company
falling in line to cheapen the product and destroy it for the $$.

Trying to explain what that *coffee* flavor from the past is to the
younger generations is impossible. It was *real* coffee, and not the
junk they make today. And the dumbest joe could make it without any
special skills or tools.

https://www.eater.com/22966312/coffee-history-america-third-wave-dark-roast
"A new species of coffee plant, Robusta, made matters worse: It was
easier to grow and packed a caffeine punch, but without any of the
delicate, delicious flavors of shade-grown Arabica. Roasting the beans
till they were super dark and caramelized was often the only way to
make the resulting brew palatable."

However, even those coffees labeled Arabica today are not what someone
from my days would ever call coffee. I once read an article on how
the profiteers changed the roasting of coffee back when. This article
claimed that is another factor that killed real coffee. Unfortuately,
I didn't save the article or it's source.

Another laugh of the day is this home roasting idiocy I read about.

Jeesh, in the old days all you had to do was go to the the
neighborhood store to buy yourself some REAL coffee, take it home, put
in the perc or Vacuum coffee maker and enjoy. Today, we need Web
sites on how to practice the "art" of coffee making.

Also - don't get me started on that Keurig nonsense.

[tom]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:52:17 -0600

Post by g***@wxyz.com
All this nonsense about having the proper type of cup, spoon,
thermometer, drip machine, water source, etc., etc., is crap.
For the first two to three decades of my 88 years all these "special"
appurtenances weren't necessary. One simply bought a can off the
shelf and made their coffee - and it was *real* coffee.

Is it possible your sense of smell and taste has changed in 88 years?
Or perhaps you got covid recently and lost the ability to sense aromas.

[g***@wxyz.com]

Post by tom
On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:52:17 -0600

Post by g***@wxyz.com
All this nonsense about having the proper type of cup, spoon,
thermometer, drip machine, water source, etc., etc., is crap.
For the first two to three decades of my 88 years all these "special"
appurtenances weren't necessary. One simply bought a can off the
shelf and made their coffee - and it was *real* coffee.

Is it possible your sense of smell and taste has changed in 88 years?
Or perhaps you got covid recently and lost the ability to sense aromas.

Well, that's a legit consideration, one I thought of myself in the
past, but I dismissed it. Bacon still tastes the same, but it is
pumped full of water these days. Some peanut butters tastes the same
as they always have - although peanut butter is not a big item with
me. The latter is rather surprising considering how many, many
products have been cheapened and ruined over time. Time after time
through the past decades as coffee has changed on me, I managed to
search and find a brand with the ordinal coffee taste. My taste is
not what had changed. The coffees changed - cheapened, ruined for the
$$$. Today, it's damn near impossible to find a brand that is still
"coffee". I'm pretty sure I'm going to give up the search. I spent a
fortune on junk in the past trying to find a real coffee, I don't need
that aggravation again.

I might mention that one famous brand of pepper has been cheapened
over time and lost it's peppery taste. Luckily, I found a brand sold
in Aldi's that is still peppery to the taste. No, it's not my taste
which has changed to such a degree that many foods have lost their
peculiar taste. It's a matter of the $$$ rules these days. Hardly
any products are what they were many decades ago. The manufacturers
count on the fact that the younger generations don't have a clue as to
how certain products tasted 30-50 years ago - when those foods were
the real thing.

How about ham? I'm talking the large ham shanks, not the deli ham.
The ham that has been sold for many decades past is little more than
water bloated spongy-like junk. Decades past, many decades past, one
could peel pieces of ham from the shank. The meat had a grain -
The direction, texture, or pattern of fibers found in wood or leather
or stone or in a woven fabric - ""saw the board across the grain"

Their is no such grain to ham today. it is merely a blob of water
soaked blubber-like material. Animal genetics have also ruined the
present day chicken. Chicken today is an enlarged genetically
compromised piece of relatively tasteless whatever - I really don't
know how to describe it's taste. A chicken breast today is damn near
bigger than an entire chicken was 50 years ago.

As I said before, it's hard to discuss the taste of the coffees of the
past. All this talk of murky, cloudy, etc., is nonsense. Simple
coffee was simple and tasted simply like coffee. All these newer
concoctions and those of foreign extraction have nothing to do with
the coffee of the past.

I know nothing of all these strange "coffees" of today. I know only
what *real* coffee used to taste like.

[horeszko]

Post by g***@wxyz.com
I've been using Gevalia coffee for about 4 or 5 years. A number of
months - maybe even a year - ago, they dumped their decent coffee, and
like almost all other coffee companies, changed to some junk that
doesn't even have a coffee taste.
I don't have a clue as to if there is a coffee brand that still has
that "coffee" taste.
I just love how so many off brands have come up with selling their
garbage for $20 - $40 for a few ounces. They're trying to convince us
that because the price is so high it must be true coffee they're
selling.

I think I know what you're talking about. I used to really like Tchibo
coffee and a few months back I bought some and it had this weird taste
which I would describe as similar to gypsum (dry wall dust).

These days I buy fresh roasted beans from local roasters or online and
grind it at home. Much better quality and taste than preground.