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Bibicaffe is coming back!
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Judd Deaver
2004-04-13 00:45:08 UTC
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I'm happy to announce the old favorite Bibicaffe is coming back. It will be
arriving back into Seattle at the end of this month. If you want to know
where to get it send me some email. This post is just intended as a general
announcement more then as sales solicitation.

To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened, lightly
carbonated bottled espresso beverage from
Italy. It's a much classier version of the canned (coffee in an aluminum
can?) coffee drinks available. The recipe has been around for 100 years, the
company that makes it has been around since 1941.


Judd
Simpson
2004-04-13 01:20:37 UTC
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Post by Judd Deaver
To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened, lightly
carbonated bottled espresso beverage from
Italy. It's a much classier version of the canned (coffee in an aluminum
can?) coffee drinks available. The recipe has been around for 100 years, the
company that makes it has been around since 1941.
Interesting. An espresso based drink with a 100 year old recipe. I'll
make you a deal... I'll buy a bottle of your soda if you'll buy my
family's bridge.
Judd Deaver
2004-04-13 01:31:13 UTC
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Is it a good price? Or can I just swap a bottle for the bridge?

(Sorry, the english version isn't done yet you can use google to translate)
http://www.alfabyte.it/desarroetorchia/lastoria.htm

Nel 1930 Pietro De Sarro e Natale Torchia, due cugini apprendono il mestiere
in una piccola fabbrica di gassose dello zio Vincenzo Ferrise che già dal
1904 produceva le famose "gassose al caffè".

Basically Pietro and Natale used Uncle Vincenzo's recipe that he had been
using to produce carbonated coffee since 1904.

Judd
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened, lightly
carbonated bottled espresso beverage from
Italy. It's a much classier version of the canned (coffee in an aluminum
can?) coffee drinks available. The recipe has been around for 100 years, the
company that makes it has been around since 1941.
Interesting. An espresso based drink with a 100 year old recipe. I'll
make you a deal... I'll buy a bottle of your soda if you'll buy my
family's bridge.
Simpson
2004-04-13 01:47:28 UTC
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Post by Judd Deaver
Is it a good price? Or can I just swap a bottle for the bridge?
(Sorry, the english version isn't done yet you can use google to translate)
http://www.alfabyte.it/desarroetorchia/lastoria.htm
Nel 1930 Pietro De Sarro e Natale Torchia, due cugini apprendono il mestiere
in una piccola fabbrica di gassose dello zio Vincenzo Ferrise che già dal
1904 produceva le famose "gassose al caffè".
Basically Pietro and Natale used Uncle Vincenzo's recipe that he had been
using to produce carbonated coffee since 1904.
Judd
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened, lightly
carbonated bottled espresso beverage from
Italy. It's a much classier version of the canned (coffee in an aluminum
can?) coffee drinks available. The recipe has been around for 100 years,
the
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
company that makes it has been around since 1941.
Interesting. An espresso based drink with a 100 year old recipe. I'll
make you a deal... I'll buy a bottle of your soda if you'll buy my
family's bridge.
Sure... what the heck. I'll swap you even...

Do you have a no-cal version?

Ted
Judd Deaver
2004-04-13 01:47:00 UTC
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Not yet, sugar free version on the horizon (hopefully using splenda if we
can swing it).
Current one has only 77 calories though.
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
Is it a good price? Or can I just swap a bottle for the bridge?
(Sorry, the english version isn't done yet you can use google to translate)
http://www.alfabyte.it/desarroetorchia/lastoria.htm
Nel 1930 Pietro De Sarro e Natale Torchia, due cugini apprendono il mestiere
in una piccola fabbrica di gassose dello zio Vincenzo Ferrise che già dal
1904 produceva le famose "gassose al caffè".
Basically Pietro and Natale used Uncle Vincenzo's recipe that he had been
using to produce carbonated coffee since 1904.
Judd
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened, lightly
carbonated bottled espresso beverage from
Italy. It's a much classier version of the canned (coffee in an aluminum
can?) coffee drinks available. The recipe has been around for 100 years,
the
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
company that makes it has been around since 1941.
Interesting. An espresso based drink with a 100 year old recipe. I'll
make you a deal... I'll buy a bottle of your soda if you'll buy my
family's bridge.
Sure... what the heck. I'll swap you even...
Do you have a no-cal version?
Ted
Simpson
2004-04-13 02:04:25 UTC
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Post by Judd Deaver
Not yet, sugar free version on the horizon (hopefully using splenda if we
can swing it).
Current one has only 77 calories though.
Post by Simpson
Do you have a no-cal version?
Ted
Yeah but there is an epidemic of diabetes so you should be able to
sell the heck out of a splenda version.
Jack Denver
2004-04-13 01:46:57 UTC
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Putting aside the question of whether what they were brewing in 1904 was
really "espresso" or just strong coffee, according to the Bibicaffe web
page, their
"gassose al caffè" (carbonated coffee beverage) has indeed been around since
1904. http://www.alfabyte.it/desarroetorchia/lastoria.htm

In Italian neighborhoods in NYC, "Manhattan Special" has been around for
even longer (they claim 1895), so Italians have had the idea of a coffee
soda for a long time.

I suspect that then and now they don't have folks manning the portafilters
pulling shots into soda bottles 1 at a time. I'm guessing that they hot or
cold brew large quantities of a coffee extract and use that as a base.

Americans tend to call any strong dark roasted coffee "espresso", so that's
the name that goes on the bottle and truthfully that word conveys the taste
message they are trying to get across better than if they called it "coffee
soda".
Post by Simpson
Post by Judd Deaver
To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened, lightly
carbonated bottled espresso beverage from
Italy. It's a much classier version of the canned (coffee in an aluminum
can?) coffee drinks available. The recipe has been around for 100 years, the
company that makes it has been around since 1941.
Interesting. An espresso based drink with a 100 year old recipe. I'll
make you a deal... I'll buy a bottle of your soda if you'll buy my
family's bridge.
D. Ross
2004-04-13 07:31:23 UTC
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| I'm happy to announce the old favorite Bibicaffe is coming back. It will be
| arriving back into Seattle at the end of this month. If you want to know
| where to get it send me some email. This post is just intended as a general
| announcement more then as sales solicitation.

We have a bottle of this that has been in our fridge since 1999 or so. We
had 2 bottles, my wife got the first one and warned me off the other.

The label says that it was imported by "Ready Made Fun Imports" of Seattle.

| To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened,

Ingredients (in order): water, sugar, coffee, caramel color, and other
natural flavors. Carbonation added. Actually not too bad, if this list
reflects reality.

W/r to the questions about the term "espresso," we should recall that in
Italy this is an ordinary term for moka pot coffee.

- David R.

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http://www.demitasse.net
Jack Denver
2004-04-13 17:03:51 UTC
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I wonder though how much coffee is in there if they need caramel color to
darken the stuff. Manhattan Special also has caramel - I suspect by the time
you add the carbonated water and the sugar you'd get a pretty pale drink
that wouldn't read to the eye as "coffee".

I understand that canned coffee drinks are quite popular in Japan.
http://www.commerce.usask.ca/faculty/links/comm_495_web_site/canned_coffee.htm
with the leading brand being Coca Cola's "Georgia" but these are brewed
coffee substitutes, not coffee sodas. They are usually dispensed hot from
special vending machines.
Post by D. Ross
Ingredients (in order): water, sugar, coffee, caramel color, and other
natural flavors. Carbonation added. Actually not too bad, if this list
reflects reality.
W/r to the questions about the term "espresso," we should recall that in
Italy this is an ordinary term for moka pot coffee.
- David R.
--
http://www.demitasse.net
Judd Deaver
2004-04-13 18:51:59 UTC
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I used to drink cases of it, thats why I tracked it down when it went away.
Plain it's very good but I drink it over ice with a splash of cream (and I
don't take cream in my coffee and drink americanos) and it's on a whole new
level.

Judd
Post by D. Ross
| I'm happy to announce the old favorite Bibicaffe is coming back. It will be
| arriving back into Seattle at the end of this month. If you want to know
| where to get it send me some email. This post is just intended as a general
| announcement more then as sales solicitation.
We have a bottle of this that has been in our fridge since 1999 or so. We
had 2 bottles, my wife got the first one and warned me off the other.
The label says that it was imported by "Ready Made Fun Imports" of Seattle.
| To those that don't know what it is It's a lightly sweetened,
Ingredients (in order): water, sugar, coffee, caramel color, and other
natural flavors. Carbonation added. Actually not too bad, if this list
reflects reality.
W/r to the questions about the term "espresso," we should recall that in
Italy this is an ordinary term for moka pot coffee.
- David R.
--
http://www.demitasse.net
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