Aussies' coffee culture is 2nd top

[Dan]

Good little story today - Australia is now second only to Italy in
coffee consumption.

No wonder Australia has so many cafes of a good standard. In every
town, and most pubs, espresso is available.

But we're still cretins in Australia, spending A$425m on instand and
A$85m on fresh/preground coffee, anuually.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7280485%255E421,00.html

[D. Ross]

***@zip.com.au (Dan) wrote:

| Good little story today - Australia is now second only to Italy in
| coffee consumption.

I think this is not entirely correct. Possibly it is 2nd in Nespresso
consumption. This story reports per-capita coffee consumption of
2.4kg/person annually, which is quite low. The EC *average* is twice that,
with most Scandinavian countries over 8 (and Finland over 11kg/person/year).


Appearances to the contrary, Italians drink relatively little coffee.

- David R.

--
http://www.demitasse.net

[Jack Denver]

Relative to what? Compared to the Finns and other northerners, I suppose
so. Those poor Scandinavians are just trying not to freeze. But the Italians
do outdrink Americans and Brits and drink as much as any warm climate
country. And remember that the Italians drink their 5 kg/capita ration 7g at
a time for the most part, which works out to over 700 annual tazzini for
every man,woman & child. With 57 million Italians, that's a lot of espresso
shots and a lot of Mokas. The Italians also make a bigger impression because
they tend to do more of their coffee drinking in public and their public
coffee is almost exclusively espresso. Brewed coffee doesn't make the same
impression - every 7 Eleven and McDonalds in America has a drip machine but
we hardly even notice it. But the first thing you see in any Italian
establishment (bar, neighborhood grocery, bakery, etc.) is the big shiny
espresso machine on the counter. Also, since most of us don't have access to
private homes when visiting for tourism or business, countries where coffee
drinking is done more at home (e.g. Scandanavia) don't register their coffee
culture as much on our radar.

Post by D. Ross
Appearances to the contrary, Italians drink relatively little coffee.
- David R.
--
http://www.demitasse.net

[D. Ross]

"Jack Denver" <***@netscape.net> wrote:

| Relative to what? Compared to the Finns and other northerners, I suppose
| so.

Italy is around 15th in annual per-capita coffee consumption. That still
might be a lot, I was just referring to Dan's post, in which he writes
"Australia is now second only to Italy in coffee consumption" and thereby
suggests Italy is #1.

It would be interesting to know what exactly Nespresso really meant in their
press release.

- David R.

Those poor Scandinavians are just trying not to freeze. But the Italians
| do outdrink Americans and Brits and drink as much as any warm climate
| country. And remember that the Italians drink their 5 kg/capita ration 7g at
| a time for the most part, which works out to over 700 annual tazzini for
| every man,woman & child. With 57 million Italians, that's a lot of espresso
| shots and a lot of Mokas. The Italians also make a bigger impression because
| they tend to do more of their coffee drinking in public and their public
| coffee is almost exclusively espresso. Brewed coffee doesn't make the same
| impression - every 7 Eleven and McDonalds in America has a drip machine but
| we hardly even notice it. But the first thing you see in any Italian
| establishment (bar, neighborhood grocery, bakery, etc.) is the big shiny
| espresso machine on the counter. Also, since most of us don't have access to
| private homes when visiting for tourism or business, countries where coffee
| drinking is done more at home (e.g. Scandanavia) don't register their coffee
| culture as much on our radar.
|
|
| "D. Ross" <***@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu> wrote >
| >
| >
| > Appearances to the contrary, Italians drink relatively little coffee.
| >
| > - David R.
| >
| > --
| > http://www.demitasse.net
|
|


--
http://www.demitasse.net

[Jack Denver]

I assume that Italy is #1 in espresso consumption and that is what Nespresso
was trying to say, but I'm just guessing. I don't know of authoritatitve
figures that are broken down by brewing method.

Post by D. Ross
| Relative to what? Compared to the Finns and other northerners, I suppose
| so.
Italy is around 15th in annual per-capita coffee consumption. That still
might be a lot, I was just referring to Dan's post, in which he writes
"Australia is now second only to Italy in coffee consumption" and thereby
suggests Italy is #1.
It would be interesting to know what exactly Nespresso really meant in their
press release.
- David R.
Those poor Scandinavians are just trying not to freeze. But the Italians
| do outdrink Americans and Brits and drink as much as any warm climate
| country. And remember that the Italians drink their 5 kg/capita ration 7g at
| a time for the most part, which works out to over 700 annual tazzini for
| every man,woman & child. With 57 million Italians, that's a lot of espresso
| shots and a lot of Mokas. The Italians also make a bigger impression because
| they tend to do more of their coffee drinking in public and their public
| coffee is almost exclusively espresso. Brewed coffee doesn't make the same
| impression - every 7 Eleven and McDonalds in America has a drip machine but
| we hardly even notice it. But the first thing you see in any Italian
| establishment (bar, neighborhood grocery, bakery, etc.) is the big shiny
| espresso machine on the counter. Also, since most of us don't have access to
| private homes when visiting for tourism or business, countries where coffee
| drinking is done more at home (e.g. Scandanavia) don't register their coffee
| culture as much on our radar.
|
|
| >
| >
| > Appearances to the contrary, Italians drink relatively little coffee.
| >
| > - David R.
| >
| > --
| > http://www.demitasse.net
|
|
--
http://www.demitasse.net

[Ivo van der Putten]

Post by Jack Denver
I assume that Italy is #1 in espresso consumption and that is what Nespresso
was trying to say, but I'm just guessing. I don't know of authoritatitve
figures that are broken down by brewing method.

Post by D. Ross
| Relative to what? Compared to the Finns and other northerners, I

suppose

Post by D. Ross
| so.
Italy is around 15th in annual per-capita coffee consumption. That still
might be a lot, I was just referring to Dan's post, in which he writes
"Australia is now second only to Italy in coffee consumption" and thereby
suggests Italy is #1.
It would be interesting to know what exactly Nespresso really meant in

their

Post by D. Ross
press release.
- David R.
Those poor Scandinavians are just trying not to freeze. But the Italians
| do outdrink Americans and Brits and drink as much as any warm climate
| country. And remember that the Italians drink their 5 kg/capita ration

7g at

Post by D. Ross
| a time for the most part, which works out to over 700 annual tazzini for
| every man,woman & child. With 57 million Italians, that's a lot of

espresso

Post by D. Ross
| shots and a lot of Mokas. The Italians also make a bigger impression

because

Post by D. Ross
| they tend to do more of their coffee drinking in public and their public
| coffee is almost exclusively espresso. Brewed coffee doesn't make the

same

Post by D. Ross
| impression - every 7 Eleven and McDonalds in America has a drip

machine

Post by Jack Denver
but

Post by D. Ross
| we hardly even notice it. But the first thing you see in any Italian
| establishment (bar, neighborhood grocery, bakery, etc.) is the big shiny
| espresso machine on the counter. Also, since most of us don't have

access to

Post by D. Ross
| private homes when visiting for tourism or business, countries where

coffee

Post by D. Ross
| drinking is done more at home (e.g. Scandanavia) don't register their

coffee

Post by D. Ross
| culture as much on our radar.
|
|
| >

Maybe we are talking about consumption of solubles?
--
Ivo van der Putten
www.ivanderputten.nl

www.ongebrand.nl

Post by Jack Denver

Post by D. Ross
| >
| > Appearances to the contrary, Italians drink relatively little coffee.
| >
| > - David R.
| >
| > --
| > http://www.demitasse.net
|
|
--
http://www.demitasse.net

[Marshall]

Post by Dan
Good little story today - Australia is now second only to Italy in
coffee consumption.

But it's first in "cool." From "The Quest for Cool" (Time Magazine
9/8/03):

"Zandl is president of the Zandl Group, a small, boutiquey
trend-analysis shop based in Manhattan's beyond-hip SoHo. She speaks
with an elusive, unplaceable accent. She was born in Germany and
raised in Australia, the world's least and most cool countries,
respectively."

Marshall

[CoffeeKid]

Post by Dan
Good little story today - Australia is now second only to Italy in
coffee consumption.
No wonder Australia has so many cafes of a good standard. In every
town, and most pubs, espresso is available.

Hrmm. I thought several of the Scandanavian countries lead the world
in coffee consumption per capita - something around 10 or 11 kilos per
person. Italy is way down the list (comparatively).

Mark